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Gorgias asks him to go on

Session 53 of 85497a–497e6 min

CalliclesI don’t know what clever tricks you’re up to, Socrates.

SocratesYou do know, , but you’re being coy. And do go on further still, so that you may know how wise you are, you who admonish me. Hasn’t each of us ceased being thirsty and, at the same time, ceased feeling pleasure through drinking?

CalliclesI don’t know what you’re saying.

GorgiasNo, no, : answer, for our sake too, so that the arguments may be carried through to their end.

CalliclesBut Socrates is always like this, : he keeps questioning and refuting over small things of little worth.

GorgiasBut what difference does it make to you? In any case it is not your honour that is at stake, . Submit, and let Socrates refute you in whatever way he wants.

CalliclesAsk these small and narrow questions of yours, then, since that is what seems good to .

SocratesYou are a happy man, , to have been initiated into the great before the small; I didn’t think it was permitted. So answer from where you left off: whether it is not at the same time that each of us ceases being thirsty and ceases feeling pleasure.

CalliclesI do say so.

SocratesThen he also ceases being hungry, and ceases from the other desires and pleasures, at the same time?

CalliclesThat is so.

SocratesThen he also ceases from pains and from pleasures at the same time?

CalliclesYes.

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