Gorgias

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1After the feast
2Polus answers for Gorgias
3Briefly: what is rhetoric about?
4Arts that work by speech
5A model answer: numbers and stars
6The greatest affairs and a drinking song
7The craftsman of persuasion. Zeuxis
8Which persuasion, about what?
9What to advise the city on
10Gorgias on the power of rhetoric
11How arguments turn to quarrels
12Orator and doctor before a crowd
13Whoever has learned what is just
14Polus steps in
15If not an art, then what?
16A part of what?
17Body, soul and a seeming good condition
18A table of arts
19Do orators have great power?
20Power as a good
21Good, bad and in between
22Whom to envy, whom to pity
23What it is to be a tyrant
24Is Archelaus happy?
25How Archelaus came to power
26Even a child could refute you
27Paid the penalty or got away
28The captured plotter
29Fine and shameful
30Two points in dispute
31What the punished undergoes
32Poverty, sickness, injustice
33To be treated or never be ill
34Fleeing the doctor
35What is rhetoric good for?
36In earnest or in jest?
37Callicles: shame, nature, law
38The law of the weak and nature's justice
39Callicles on philosophy
40Zethus and Amphion
41Unable to help oneself
42How far to pursue wisdom
43Better, superior, stronger
44Whom Callicles calls better
45A doctor at a shared table
46Intelligent in the city's affairs
47Ruling oneself
48Are those who need nothing happy?
49Two lives, temperate and unrestrained
50The itch and consistency
51Of Acharnae and of Alopece
52Thirst and drinking
53Gorgias asks him to go on
54The unintelligent, cowards and joy
55Let us reckon together
56How one should live
57Gratifying many at once
58Cinesias and his father Meles
59Name even one
60Order in house, ship and body
61Food for the sick
62A tale without a head
63From the beginning
64Heaven, earth and order
65Callicles' reproaches
66Two evils: doing and suffering injustice
67How not to suffer injustice
68To live as long as possible?
69Your daughter for his son?
70The women who draw down the moon
71Testing a builder
72Did the Athenians become better?
73Cimon, Themistocles, Miltiades
74Two ways of caring for the body
75A baker, a cook and a retailer
76A politician ruined by his city
77The pupil made fast
78To fight or to serve?
79If I am brought to court
80What help a man needs
81Judgement under Cronus
82Scars on the body
83The curable and the incurable
84The Isles of the Blessed
85The last word

BackGorgias· Polus

A part of what?

Session 16 of 85462d–463d6 min

SocratesNow ask me what art cookery seems to me to be.

PolusI ask, then: what art is cookery?

SocratesNone, Polus.

PolusThen what? Say it.

SocratesI say it, then: a kind of experience.

PolusWhat kind? Say it.

SocratesI say it, then: of producing gratification and pleasure, Polus.

PolusSo cookery and rhetoric are the same thing?

SocratesNot at all; but each is a part of the same pursuit.

PolusWhat is this pursuit you mean?

Here Plato pauses for you462e

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